I am really trying to get into/ understand Coltrane. It often seems too out there for me- difficult to follow. I will try this as it is earlier in his career. thanks.
x pwr2thepeopleman: don't try to "understand" Coltrane. He can touch certain chords if you let him, but these are inside of you, mostly in your heart(soul).
I've been sitting with this record for a couple of weeks now, and I think the thing that touches me the most about it is the tremendous "openness" that Coltrane has here. There's just this sense that there's nothing constricting or impeding the flow of musical/spiritual expression - the music is just rising up from his toes, rolling through his body, and flowing out the other end of the sax. There's an inner discipline and desire to communicate that gives it a shape and an internal coherence, but there's no condescension, no tricks, and no falsehood. It's a genuinely liberating experience witnessing these performances. Gotta smile!
Though I deeply respect Coltrane, I find it all to be too technical and spectacle. I know, I know, surely I'm missing something, but when Miles plays, I hear the deep connection to the blues, and the importance of silence. Coltrane's genius is irrefutable, but too often, it sounds like his technical ability overwhelms his musicality. Still, I listen with as much openness as I can muster. Thanks much for the post!
i'm reading Ben Ratliff's "Coltrane: The Story of a Sound" now and it's helping me to understand Coltrane's music A LOT MORE.
I bought A Love Supreme on a whim 7 years ago and really enjoyed it without understanding what was going on. Now, I'm getting a better grasp on knowing more of what's actually going on (as much as I can without knowing a lot about theory).
(also, I'm not sure what pwr2thepeopleman was talking about when he said this is 'earlier in his career'. this is 2 years before he died.)
i guess i meant before he delved fully into free jazz. In rare instances, listening to free Coltrane, it is as if the beautiful sound is made present. Most of the time it hurts. But those time when I am in the mode, it is truly sublime.
@pwr2thepeopleman, ah, i gotcha.. man, i forgot about ever leaving this comment here.
since then though, i haven't gotten into his really late stuff either, except for Ascension. for me, it's still hard to get into stuff after A Love Supreme
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ReplyDeleteI am really trying to get into/ understand Coltrane. It often seems too out there for me- difficult to follow. I will try this as it is earlier in his career. thanks.
ReplyDeletex pwr2thepeopleman: don't try to "understand" Coltrane. He can touch certain chords if you let him, but these are inside of you, mostly in your heart(soul).
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ReplyDeletethanks ricky, you got that right
ReplyDeleteI've been sitting with this record for a couple of weeks now, and I think the thing that touches me the most about it is the tremendous "openness" that Coltrane has here. There's just this sense that there's nothing constricting or impeding the flow of musical/spiritual expression - the music is just rising up from his toes, rolling through his body, and flowing out the other end of the sax. There's an inner discipline and desire to communicate that gives it a shape and an internal coherence, but there's no condescension, no tricks, and no falsehood. It's a genuinely liberating experience witnessing these performances. Gotta smile!
ReplyDeleteThough I deeply respect Coltrane, I find it all to be too technical and spectacle. I know, I know, surely I'm missing something, but when Miles plays, I hear the deep connection to the blues, and the importance of silence. Coltrane's genius is irrefutable, but too often, it sounds like his technical ability overwhelms his musicality. Still, I listen with as much openness as I can muster. Thanks much for the post!
ReplyDeletewhy does music need a "deep connection to the blues" to be relevant?
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing this gem!
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ReplyDeleteany chance you/anyone has a link to 'Living Space'?
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i'm reading Ben Ratliff's "Coltrane: The Story of a Sound" now and it's helping me to understand Coltrane's music A LOT MORE.
ReplyDeleteI bought A Love Supreme on a whim 7 years ago and really enjoyed it without understanding what was going on. Now, I'm getting a better grasp on knowing more of what's actually going on (as much as I can without knowing a lot about theory).
(also, I'm not sure what pwr2thepeopleman was talking about when he said this is 'earlier in his career'. this is 2 years before he died.)
i guess i meant before he delved fully into free jazz. In rare instances, listening to free Coltrane, it is as if the beautiful sound is made present. Most of the time it hurts. But those time when I am in the mode, it is truly sublime.
ReplyDelete...like 'sun ship' and 'interstellar regions'
ReplyDelete@pwr2thepeopleman, ah, i gotcha.. man, i forgot about ever leaving this comment here.
ReplyDeletesince then though, i haven't gotten into his really late stuff either, except for Ascension. for me, it's still hard to get into stuff after A Love Supreme
@pablo: what is your take on the other coltrane, Alice?
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